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2008/08/14 16:33:25: Posted by DM
The PS3's high price point is apparently not because of what the machine can do, but what it eventually will do, says Scott Steinberg, the Sony marketing boss. Speaking with Gamasutra on the 10-year plan Sony has for the PS3, Steinberg said: "The price of the PS3 is high but you're paying for potential." "The ten-year strategy is ingrained in all of us. [SCEA president and CEO] Jack [Tretton] has brought that to all levels of the organization," he told Gamasutra. We are not exactly sure if that is what gamers want to hear, but a marketing man should know that. What do you think? Comment and tell us.

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Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

ps3 is actually cheaper than the cheapest xbox 360 on the market if you think about all of the "accessories" that you will eventually have to buy. These come standard on the ps3 such as wifi, HD movie playback and free online gaming....

Written by destrosio on 2008/08/14

what?!? they're tryin' to convince me to spend a hell lot of big bucks for a hardware just "for potential", didn't they? seems that I've missed something in the meanwhile... for example, spending my money to play games, you know...
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/08/14

I date a girl for potential wife later in the future but there is no f$cking way I'm going to buy her a car on the first date.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

SDF can kiss my brown a$$ with thier justification of the PS3 price. wifi, Blu-Ray movie playback, and free online gaming aren't necessary. They are luxurys.

My 360 doesn't need to go online. Doesn't need wifi. Doesn't need to play Blu-Ray discs.

All it needs to do is play games. When the arcade 360 drops to $199.00 it's OVER!!!!! You get everything you need in the arcade for playing games. 360. Controller. AV cables. Memory card. DONE.

Everything else is optional. Wan't mass storage buy a HDD. Wan't to play online buy a HDD. Wan't to watch Blu-Ray movies go buy a PS3 I mean um get a Blu-Ray player. On second thought go buy a PS3 :p
Written by fixx on 2008/08/14

lol will there ever be an end to sony's constant stream of nonsense?
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

Actually Dudeman, your right.

120 GIG for 179.99 for Xbox 360

While PS3 can use regulard HDD which gives you 1 terabytes.

Now thats almost 8-9 times cheaper,

I really love my PS3, although it's a bit pricey, but in the long run I can actually upgrade as much as I want without worrying price, and with Online free, Thank God!

I wouldn't have online if they did charge...
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

fixx: There would be if somebody would shove a titanium cork up thier corporate a$$ so they couldn't talk out of it anymore...

blacktiger: But I thought you Sony Sausage Smugglers said the PS3 had everything you need in 1 box. Why would you have to upgrade your HDD???

Spin that sucker...
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

Sure Xbox 360 is cheaper, but that's the point, because everything in accessories that becomes complete console entertainment, will cost you three times more than the PS3 itself.

Look at HDD, and look HD-DVD and look at all the expensive accessories they have to offer..

VERY PRICEY IF U ASK...

Who' the hell doesn't wana buy acessories and play the console itself?

Give me a break already...
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

Oh wait....PS3 outsold 360 YET AGAIN in July according to official NPD numbers.

Playstation 3 225k (WINNER)

Xbox 360 205k (LOSER)

Wow, MS can't win even if they drop their prices. LOL

Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

HDD upgradeable is for the ppl who really belive they want more than the free HDD

I'm sure you can keep a big 40gig and not worry, but there are geeks and hardcore fans love to keep all the library games, and have a nice selection then 20gig, which is really small with demo alone...

Imagine, DEMO, VIDEOS, MUSIC, GAMES

My Rastafarian music alone is 10gig !

and I have 5 gig alone is of HD trailers and Gameplay trailers, I got crappy resolution movies of 6 gig (imagine HD movies)

I can keep on going PimpD, and If i want to upgrade, I dont have to worry about spending so much money jsut for 120 gig when I can just buy it same price for 1 Terabytes...

Dudeman, MS hasn't drop the price yet... or did they ?

Oh not to mention, If I ever do upgrade it, then I can take the 40 gig and have it as a backup hard drive or keep it as Portable HDD, since it is a Laptop Hard Drive. See it's very valueable after you don't need it for PS3.

Thank god it's Laptop HDD,
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

blacktiger: You posted all that recycled garbage. Now answer my question. I thought the PS3 had everything I could ever need. I didn't ask about the 360.

Why would anyone need to upgrade thier PS3 or wan't to if it has everything you need???
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

Like I said, PS3 has everything you need.

Is that all you wana know,

My point is that if you really wana dig your PS3 to a complete entertainment, it is easier than Xbox 360

Otherwise, your right PS3 has everything out of the BOX

'

By the way I didnt know XBox 360 is not wifi,

that's pretty bad...
Written by CianMCL on 2008/08/14

potential????WTF thats stupid...just because it has potential doesnt mean it will live up to its potential
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

Reminds me of MS saying it will outsell PS3 world wide... and said the machine is better when it got RROD...

CianMCL, ppl say everything, you just have to wait if its true or not,

To me PS3 is a lot cheaper then Xbox 360, so yea it does live up to potential...
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

blacktiger: Doesn't surprise me that you don't know alot of things about the 360. Or videogames for that matter :p

You gonna get WarHawk. Do I need to buy it for you? Who's your favorite NFL team. Mine are the Oakland Raiders and Dallas Cowboys.

LOL. PS3 is not cheaper than the 360. Not when you campare the retail price. Just stop so you don't get owned in yet another thread.

Just stick to worshipping MGS4. Debating videogame consoles is not your strong point.

You still need to get WarHawk. Man I can't beleive you haven't bought the best game on the PS3 as far as value for your money. What kind of Playstation Polesmoker are you???
Written by fixx on 2008/08/14

the fundamental thing missing from the ps3 is any decent games.. it doesn't have a single game that would make me want to buy one. Who cares if it has free online or a fucking gay wifi antenna... that's not what you buy a GAMES console for..... Its for playing games for christ sake and that's where its trailing behind the 360 as it hasn't anything to offer in that department. The 360 is A LOT cheaper to buy than the ps3 and does its job much better.... I cant understand why anyone would buy a ps3 over a 360, even the multi format games are ALL better on the 360. Its basically a blue ray player that just happens to play 360 ports badly.
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

So wait, whatever game you have is what is valueable...

Sorry this isn't Xbox 360, this is PS3 where it has so many games to provide for gamers,

I dont know why you wana know my favourite team in NFL but it's Indnapolis Colts,

Fixx, no matter how good PS3 games has, it will not make u a buy thing, it jsut the way it is...

Wether you like it or not, every console has an amazing game,

Like Xbox 360 has Gears Of War

PS3 has MGS4

Wii has Super Mario Galaxy,

but according to you, nothing on PS3 , that makes you wana buy..

Me I would love to own Xbox 360 in no time, but I do have money issue but even if i have money, I'm afraid with the system and the RROD issue, I think i'll wait till that gets fix, maybe the 60 gig might be the better version.
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

If ps3 has no games what have i been playing all this time? What is warhawk, uncharted, burnout paradise, oblivion, CoD4, MGS4, Resistance, GTAIV, GTP, Assassins Creed.......dang i could go on and on.

What games are worth owning on the 360? Halo and Gears maybe? Dang....that's about it.

Also here is how much my ps3 cost = $399

Here is how much my 360 cost = $449 + $100 wifi + $20 charge cable with a grand total of around $600 after tax.

So you tell me which one was more expensive.
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/14

hey pimp oblivion is better on the 360
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

your right evil, but that's old, new games are gonna be better on PS3 or same...

Hey Dudeman I just saw the NPD numbers,

wow PS3 is winning again...
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/14

ya but i still play oblivion all the time on my 360 becuase i always have something to do. i cant wait untill the next elder scrolls game comes out.

Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

Actually oblivion is better on the ps3. That's not just me saying that....but IGN. It is more complete since it adds the KOTN expansion for no extra cost. It has faster load times AND has better graphics with improved shader technology.
Written by Jagosix on 2008/08/14

Hello Fellow Gamers. WTF is this Potential crap...yet again!!?? You know that I can watch Blu-ray movies on my X360. I just stream them via network or use a 1TB external drive that contains a lot of Blu-ray Hi-Def movies (No Blu-ray or HDDVD drive required). The RROD thing has played out(Get Over It already).

The fact is M$ isn't going anywhere anytime soon. M$ has tons.. I repeat.. TONS on money to throw behind the X360. Sony & Nintendo don't have that luxury.

I'm very pleased that an AMERICAN COMPANY is kicking the $h!t out of the Japanese competitors for a change. Just goes to show that we Americans can still be the BEST.
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

hxxp://ps3.ign.com/articles/762/762108p1.html
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/14

no on the 360 version it has more downloadable content not just knights of the nine and shivering isles
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

jago you see the NPD numbers released today? MS lost AGAIN!!
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/08/14

Post a link to July NPD Numbers
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/14

have you guys ever seen a grown man satisfy a camel???
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

Dudeman!

Relax!

Who cares if SONY won!

I'd rather see SONY bring better games then, winning their console race, because it's not gonna do you anything at all.

Jagosix, your right MS does have tons of money, and that's why they don't want to fix RROD!
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/14

B1ue just google July 2008 NPD. Here's one of the many sites reporting the numbers.

hxxp://www.neoseeker.com/news/8608-july-2008-npd-wii-ds-lead-the-way/



blacktiger, the console war is over and Sony has won. They've also got the best lineup of 2008 and 2009. I'm not concerned.
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/14

I AGREE WITH BLACKTIGER
Written by whYte420 on 2008/08/14

LOL the console war is over. If you people can't see that Microsoft will eventually dominate this market, whether it's 10 console generations from now or not, you need to get your head out of your ass.
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/08/14

Good Point Whyte I never looked at it like that.. Mangina can spin that for you.

according to this PS3 won last month Hardware sales between the 360, Can someone tell me though why is NCAA Football 09 selling almost twice as much on the 360? I don't get it. What's the difference between the two versions.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

B1ueBurneR: Difference is 360 owners buy games. PS3 owners buy movies. Owned. End of thread.

NEXT???
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

You know I hope SONY doesn't win the race infact I hope MS doesn't win either, that way, both of them can race and get more exclusive, and let the gamers win !!!!!!!
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

Dammit I already ended the thread BalcTiger. You can't reopen it.Just choose a damn side and stick to it. Did you get WarHawk yet??? Is there a way you can gift money from your Playstation Wallet to somebody else?
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

I'm not getting the game for you PimpD, I told you i'm not like you hating or liking jsut cause someone said so, i'd rather rent it out and go from there....

Anyways...

What else game you have ...?
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

I didn't say to get the game for me. I said get the game so you can play WarHawk this weekend. I have Super Stardust HD, Oblivion, Super Rub A dub, WarHawk, and Guitar Hero 3.
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

none of them are my kinda a game...

FPS or Sports(depends which)... only !!! (GTAIV)
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

BlackTiger: I suck at online shooters. I know I am going to get my a$$ handed to me this weekend. But it's fun. I don't need to win. It's about playing games.

If you wan't to watch movies or pretend you own a PS3 thats cool. But a real PS3 owner would get the game even if he had to rent it and show up this Saturday...
Written by jb33 on 2008/08/14

^^^ Seems like your dodging to me...LOL. Whats your PSN ID again ? I'll chip in on getting Warhawk for planet blacktiger with you PimpD. Let me guess ?? You don't even want it for free because it's not your type of game ? Stop lying and admit you don't even own the console you so desperately defend. You must be getting your George Foreman grill confused with a PS3 again...LOL. Honest mistake...
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

JB33: Exactly bro. F*ck it's 30 dollars. You and I can split the games cost. Oh BTW I found my charger for my Jabra headset. It is f*cking so on this weekend. You all gonna hear some sh!t...



Seriously I never see BlackTiger on PSN. He is on my friends list. I see Dudeman, incoming00, Jb33, kungfurabbit, but never BlackTiger.
Written by jb33 on 2008/08/14

@Planet Blacktiger...I don't even like Warhawk and i'm gonna play. The only reason a so called "PS3 OWNER" wouldn't show up is because they don't actually own the system. Keep them fingers crossed though... Maybe i'll let you mom slide on her "PAYMENTS" around Christmas time, so you can finally have one...LOL.

@Pimpdaddy...I played Warhawk for a while today and got used and abused by everyone. I suck SO bad at that game it hurts to even think about it. Everytime i get into a plane it's like a silent countdown to my death...LOL. I usually last about 10 seconds before someone explodes my plan with a missile. Hopefully more people decide to talk during Saturdays game. I sent DM a XBL message about the Warhawk game and he said he would play if you sent him the details.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

I know I am trying to work DM over too. He has the game. Tell him to get on PSN at 12:00 pst on Saturday. Server name:gamersreports

You know if you let his mom slide on her payments maybe she can finally pay me too :p

I think BlackTiger just got punked hard. He has to go run to his friends house so he can act like he owns a PS3.
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/14

Umm okay PIMP, jsut cause you didn't see me online makes you feel I dont own PS3, umm okay... sure, it doesn't hurt me what you think, I am EST, what about you ?

You wana face me, go buy GTAIV or COD4, or MGS4, or Rainbow Six 1 or Resistance 1, now if you can't afford it then I suggest shut up already...

Or at least get Madden NFL !

Now is this a way for you to come back and say Blacktiger doesn;t own a console...

Loser !

So what;s your time now ???

my time is 12:48am !
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/14

BlackTiger I only worked part of 1 day last week away from home. The rest of the stuff I did was from home for my clients. PSN was up all day. Never once seen you signed in.

I can't check to see if your online or verify because I am at a clients at the moment removing spyware from a computer. But I am sure if you told JB33 your PSN ID he could verify... It's 9:54 PM here.

It's just funny that a guy like you who claims to won a PS3 is never online. I have PSN up all the time. Like I said I see guys like incoming00, dudeman, jb33, and kungfurabbit on a regular basis.

They can verify that they see me too.

The reason we wan't to do WarHawk is becuase it is a PS3 exclusive. If we wanted to play those other game syou claim to own we would do them on the 360. If I need a game i got the hookup with free rentals here where I live. So I don't buy many games till they are discounted. Very rarely do I think a game is worth 60 dollars.

I'm not poor. I just grew up that way being that we had a family of 9 growing up and the military didn't pay very well back then.

So I spend my middle class income carefully.
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/15

i like DOGS
Written by jb33 on 2008/08/15

@ Planet Blacktiger... I have...MGS4/GTA/COD4 and Resistance. It's time to put up or shut up... I'll get on right now so we can verify your PS3 ownership. I don't even want to play anything...I just want to see if you actually own one. Please don't say...I don't have/want to verify my ownership either. Act now or forever be laughed at as the imaginary PS3 owner of GR.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/15

evilblackranger: We still on for WarHawk this weekend???
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/15

i have MGS4.

anyone wanna play online?????

pimpdaddyy:ohh yess we are

oh blacktiger has a psn id. i think its elizxer or something like that unless i have the wrong one
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/15

evilblackranger: Everyone tells me that MGO sucks a$$. So that would be a negatory ghost rider.

Please be sure to be on PSN at 12:00 PM PST Saturday with WarHawk installed. That way we can get into the game faster.

It's hard with PSN sucking a$$ so hard with lack of in game invites, and in game XMB being ridiculously slow...

evilblackranger: But do you ever see BlackTiger online? It took him 3 days to accept my friend request. I never see him online. jb33 and I offered to buy him the damn game and he is still dodging.
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/15

well mgo kinda sucks because it impossible to kill someone. but i still play it cause its fun too me.

but i will be on saturday
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/15

Guys clcik on my profile and I listed all my IM accounts for yahoo, aim, and msn. I run all 3 all thetime. So hit me up. It would be easier for me to set things up that way...
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/15

Evil u got it,

it's Elizxer

You have MGS4 u know what

that's even better, i'm gonna add everyone on MSN !

PSN ID - Elizxer

MSN ID - [email protected]

Everyone do the same so we can add each other.. that way you can tell me when your playing PS3 so I can hop on, otherwise I am very on time schedule to play games since I'm always busy...

OKAY FINE I JUST READ THE WHOLE THING, YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT, I'M GONNA RENT WARHAWK, AT LEAST IM NOT BUYING IT....

What time on PST and EST ???? IM in guys !!!!

Evil some ppl say they dont LIKE MGO, but i love it, if u do, let me know we can play together...

and JB33 what's your PSN ID, I'll play you GTAIV and Resistance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And to PimpD

"jb33 and I offered to buy him the damn game and he is still dodging. "

How can you offer me ???
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/15

BlackTiger: I thought I read somewhere that you can gift people money on PSN. I am going to look into it. But there is other ways too. I could Pay Pal it to you. Wire it to you.

I'm not fronting when I say that I bill my clients at $100.00 US dollars an hour.

If JB33 and I split the bill thats only 15 dollars a piece.
Written by blacktiger on 2008/08/15

sure but not now guys,

let juse rent it out and see if I even like the game,

I think I should if I like GTAIV...

but let see anyways I dont wana lie either...
Written by jersey732 on 2008/08/15

Don't rent it, just buy the freakin thing already lol. I also suck at flying them damn planes in Warhawk. I'm so damn uncoordinated with it. I usually just stick with ground vehicles or sniping.
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/15

Let's do this!! Tomorrow....12:00 pst. servername: gamersreports.

Be there people.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/15

jersey732: Your invited too. Get me your psn id. I listed all my personal info if you just click on my name.

My psn id is: p1mpdaddytonyg
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/08/15

F$ck all y'all leaving me out and sh!t.
Written by jersey732 on 2008/08/15

Mine is drucan. It was my characters name on FFXI.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/15

B1ueBurneR: Man you got to know somebody with a Blu-Ray player right???

I can give you my PSN ID to use and with the DRM you can download WarHawk to that PS3. Because I have 2 PSN ID's.
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/08/15

Thanks but no thanks, be assured that while you guys are Playing, I will be laying in some Arabian chicks ... u figure it out. lol
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/15

wait how can someone else buy a game for you over psn?
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/08/16

PS3 does NOT come with Rumble in the controller...so that means you will have to spend $60 extra dollars if you want to add the "potential" for that feature. Unfortunately, most Playstation 3 games STILL do NOT support RUMBLE in the controller!

Also,

Playstation 3 does NOT come with a high-definition cable of ANY kind...so that means you will also have to spend money to buy a cable!

PS3 has plenty of "extra" hidden costs of its own.
Written by evilblackranger on 2008/08/16

mine came with hdmi cords
Written by dudeman on 2008/08/18

360 does not come with a high definitoin movie player, wifi OR a charge cable. For every xbox you buy you will spend an extra $200 atleast in accessories alone. $300 if you buy the arcade. PS3 is hands down the best buy.

You also have to pay $50 PER YEAR just to play online with your friend!!!

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