No Slowdown In Xbox Demand, Says Bach >

	2008/09/10 12:42:24: Posted by DM
	Despite the comments made this morning by the CEO of Wild Tangent, Microsoft's Robbie Bach says that the demand for the Xbox360 hardware has not diminished at all. Speaking to Reuters from a promotional event, Bach claimed that despite worldwide economic issues, Xbox, Windows Mobile, and the Zune player's business have seen no significant decrease, at least not yet. >Link
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men lie women lie numbers don't. peace.

No company will ever release a statement saying "The demand from our product is down".

You're right sky numbers don't lie, which support what Bach is saying. If the world economics were effecting the 360's, PS3's, or Wii's sales than we wouldn't be seeing an increase or at least steady rate of sales from year to year.

But go on licking sony's b@lls while you live in ignorance. It's quite amusing troll.

Xenos

So I guess the CEO of Wild Tangent was trolling too when he made the original comment? the facts are the facts.you can't expect MS to admit there in a decline in Europe.

lol I thought it was Activision who was concerned about the 360's performance in some countries.

It's been this way since the beginning, the 360 does well in some countries in Europe and not so well in some other countries.

What's your point troll?

Ohhh, you're talking about St. John's comment.

lol He was talking about both Sony and MS, troll, what a SHOCK that you ignore the sony part.

Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world that he would know about MS' 1st party efforts. Especially since they have been ramping up and hiring lately.

Makes REAL sense /sarcasm.



You and madgunde should team up, maybe between you two you can come up with some better trolling comments.

My Point is All robbie bach is doing is damage control. if you go to the Netherlands the DS and 360 are the same price and its still gets slapped around.

Good job twisting things around sky, keep up the good work.

When your reading comprehension is less than a 1st grader, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

This is exactly what I was talking about in the "post better news" thread.

St. John states that MS' development was ramping down, not their sales. And here we have DM saying that Bach's comment was a direct reply to St. John and you are falling for it.

Love your crusade sky, you're an inspiration for all fanboys

Point is, you'll twist things around to make things look worse than they are for MS.

Sad that you put this much effort into twisting the truth jut to help yourself sleep at night.

Why do you bother to post in anything related to the 360 anyways? Honest question.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and you obviously don't care for the 360, so it's pretty pathetic.

Anyone willing to listen to you, a fanboy with an agenda, deserves to be fooled

You were obviously suspended for baseless trolling, and you still haven't learned.

So sad.

MS is having a Identity crisis with the 360.. they try and put out an "elite" console to combat the PS3 but it falls flat of it's face when it comes to bang for bucks actually ripping off customers now

There also trying to combat the wii with the uber tard park Arcade SKU. A poor mans HD system.. get ripped off as you upgrade type of deal

thats tacky tactic is costing them on a worldwide level.. they really need to adjust and focus on other markets other than the US of A.

You're talking about a system that has the most diverse line up of games and some of the cheapest prices in every territory. Yeah they could improve in marketing, but to say that they aren't adjusting or focusing is ignorant. Of course I wouldn't expect anything else from you.

Also how is the Arcade or Elite a rip off? Oh that's right, it's you talking about MS that's why.

How about you actually stick to the topic instead of jumping around when you have nothing better to back up your BS opinion?

I'm also lost to how having multiple SKUs is focused on the USA market when Sony themselves have had more SKUs introduced this gen.

Yeah, selective memory, BIG surprise. /sarcasm

You really don't have a point to stand on, so how about you just stay in topics where you're not forced to troll and look like an idiot.

Love how the Arcade is a rip off, or a poor man's HD system, when it's only $70 more than the ps2 without a memory card or any free games.

Yeah trolling at it's finest.

Or you know what, it's only $30 more than the PSP, a system that I would love to own but Sony seems more focused in raising the price instead of lowering it.

But please go on how only MS rips off the poor customers.

400 elite Vs 400 PS3

hmmm lets see

120gb HDD vs 80gb HDD

no Blu ray player Vs. Blu ray

No wi fi vs. Wi fi

50 bucks a year for live Vs. free

assuming someone who wants the best of the best hence "elite" they want all the bells and whistles. buying the Best on the 360 Vs what comes standard on the PS3 makes the Elite look like a pure rip off.

As far as the Arcade unit.. wheres my HD component cables that come stocked like in the premium and my optical out? also why a wired controller now when the wii and PS3 have them stocked. why are you raping me on a 20gb HDD? MS are the Kings of Nickel and diming folks

Oh so now we've gone down to selective trolling huh?

Why bother asking questions when you'll never accept the answer?

Again going way off topic just for the sake of your agenda.

I could make my own lists, but I really don't care to be compared to a fanboy.

Have fun on your crusade.

I have come across some idiotic fanboys, but you take that crown by a mile.

I really wish some level headed people would come in and talk some sense into you seeing as how there is no reasoning with someone who loves the tastes of Sony's b@lls.

Again, not a point to stand on.

Funny how you only troll in some topics where you THINK you have a point but in other topics when there is no material for you to feed off of, you're nowhere to be found.

So I'll ask again, just for you to ignore, why bother posting in any 360 related topic when you obviously have your biased mind made up?

Doesn't make for good conversation, but when dealing with a child, I don't expect good discussions.

Xenos if you noticed I never criticized you or called you names.. your posts are a bunch of fluff using swift boat tactics in a attempt to take away from the arguments at hand. If you were smart you would stick to whats being said and argue your point rather then personal attacks.

Sit back and think about it.

lol and if you were smart you would stay at the topic at hand, but that isn't the case is it?

So troll away fanboy, troll away, wasting my time trying to create anything close to a conversation with you seems to be a waste of time.

To the point, Bach's statement had nothing to do with St. John's comment but DM thought it would be wise to state it as it were so.

St. John's statement was directed towards both MS AND Sony, but he is wrong on both accounts.

So how is that biased for you? Oh wait.........

Sky, you were missing Games vs. No Games in that arguement(But atleast PS3 may be turning around after 2 years)

Now now, kronixz, let's not lower ourselves to sky's level of twisting things around and continuing a pointless comparison war. The ps3 has plenty of good games that any owner should be happy with, that whole argument of "no games" doens't really hold water anymore.

Besides, again this topic isn't about that.

this topic is about No slow down says MS but everyone else other then MA is singing a different tune.

What's MA? And where are your sources for this information?

Edit MS

Isn't it amusing how Sky tries to set it straight regarding the topic when he was the one to throw it off in the first place? =p

Never change sky, we need good examples of what not to become.

So who's everyone?

Its common knowledge the 360 is doing poor in Europe thats what this CEO is referring to.. Him and Midway are both concerned with the 360 in Europe.. this is not new news. Stop acting brand new

Umm it's a common assumption to the sony fanboys. Also, did you really read what St. John said? It had nothing to do with Europe according to the link at GI.biz.

Again, the 360 does well in some countries and not so well in others, nothing new.

So what's your point?

the 360 only does well in the UK everywhere else in Europe is subpar.

Source? Seeing as how there is no accurate way to collect data in Europe, you're talking about of your @ss.

Besides, lets go along with your little game here. If last year, in Europe, the demand was a measly 10,000 consoles a month and this year it's still that paltry 10,000 a month. Well then regardless of the figures, the demand has not actually "slowed down".

So please, go spread your sony loving FUD elsewhere.

No, oh sorry I didn't realize St. John wasn't talking about that, or I'm sorry I didn't mean to be such an @ss.

You're not here to discuss anything. You're here to try and push your opinion onto others.

So tell me again, why should we bother discussing anything with you? It's a rather simple question, I'm sure you can understand it..................................................................I hope.

check neogaf pal chart threads. they post hardware numbers from different country's on occasion as the data rolls in.

You mean the same neogaf that doesn't even have that thread within the first 21 pages of it's forum? (at least from what I just checked)

Yeah, real up to date.

Good job avoiding my point and question.

Love how you point out Neogaf, when that's one of the many places that you couldn't get away with the same sh!t as you do here.

You're kind is banned there within days if not minutes.

try page 5 clown

there aren't hardware numbers in this weeks thread..but they do appear in some.. a new thread is made weekly late sunday/early monday timeframe.

Ohhh resorting to name calling now huh?

Yeah, I saw that, but there was no hardware, only software tracked. So please try again.

go thru the achieves or check the threads weekly. I won't sit here and hold your hand for you

No but you'll make claims of only one region with nothing to back it up.

My point, and question, still stands.

Good times, good times.

whats there to back up? you honestly believe the 360 is performing on par with the wii psp ds ps3 in europe? I'm saying the same exact thing that has been brought up about there situation over there and midway further solidified my argument. does midway have something to prove to you too? do you want them as well to give you some hardware numbers?

In Europe in general? No, never said it was doing as well, where did I ever say that?

However that has nothing to do with the topic.

So again, my point (and question) still stand.

Booyah

Wait is that it? That's all you have to say?

Does it really help you sleep at night to grasp at straws surrounding information that has nothing to do with the topic?

I guess you need any comfort you can get when your system of choice is in last place.

No one is competing with the Wii in any territory Sky. What does it really matter to any of us as individuals? All three console companies will be there for the next go round. Let's hope they all learn from their mistakes (Hardware problems, Awful Public Relations, Shovelware/no storage/terrible online) so it is a win-win for us.

Yay for victus' logic.

Agree 100%. Honestly I see Sony and MS learning, but Ninty can only do so much about 3rd party shovelware.

I'm expecting a Wii2 with similar performance to the 360/ps3 and I'm fine with that. I just hope that they really do start taking online serious and not just say that they are like this gen.